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-minute deal and this plan would not be the grand bargain that john boehner started initially working on. that plan would have dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction and this will be a much more scaled back version that will deal with the issue of taxes and that is still the big sticking point, taxes. of course, democrats and president obama have called for tax rates to increase on those making $250,000 or less. republicans have said that's way too low. so they're thinking about potentially compromising on a rate that would be $400,000 or $500,000, but some republicans are saying they don't think that the tax rate should go up on anyone. so taxes still the major sticking point. right now the negotiations are going on the hill and there's a lot of optimism that came from the talks yesterday. of course, president obama hosted congressional leaders at the white house and they left that meeting and many said that it was constructive and they were optimistic that a deal could get done and i've been talking to my sources today and that same optimism isn't really present right now. there's
for watching. it's home for the holidays with no deal. house speaker john boehner only has himself to blame. boehner's plan b gimmick failed big time last night at this point a fiscal cliff deal with boehner's members would probably require divine intervention. >> how we get there, god only knows. but all i've done is -- eric and i and our team here are committed to working with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, both sides of the capitol and the white house to address it. >> after a day with dealing with humiliation, boehner hit the gavel and sent his members home for the holidays. there will be no deal this weekend. then boehner took the walk of shame out of the capitol. it's unclear whether he will be the speaker in the new year. it was the same sad walk many house members took last night when they couldn't get their own folks to vote on boehner's plan b. republican leaders can't strike a deal with their own members. how will they strike one with the president of the united states? boehner was scrambling for excuses today. >> you know, one of my colleagues the other night had an
the republicans. do the republicans favor the leadership of eric cantor more than the leadership of john boehner and? will this cost john boehner his -- more than the leadership of john boehner? will this cost john brennan his speakership? guest: boehner said the members were not angry with him. they were not showing dissatisfaction with him. one of the other things about that was that standing next to him at the press conference was eric cantor. that was a clear sign that these guys are tied together and eric cantor is not ready to unseat john brennan. there was a lot of symbolism in that press conference. -- ready to unseat john boehner. if he goes back and stars to negotiate with president obama and tries to bring back the deal at this conference cannot accept again, the danger to him does arise. from what i was told thursday night, he gave a well-received speech to the conference. he said, i did not have the votes. his speech was well-received by them. he is well liked by those members. as of right now, he is not in in any immediate danger right now. depending on -- he is not in any immediat
washington," john boehner's plan b collalapses and the house goes home for christmas. >> it is hard to get y your mind around said that someone so young could leave us, and such a peaceful communi such an horrific event. >> anonother massacre and another called for gun-control. >> the fact of this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. >> hands brawl after the state depapartment report on benghazi, but are they theey right hands? >> the compound was inadequate for the threat environmnment in benghazi, and in fact, grossly inadequate to deal with the attacks that took place that night. >> wilill former republican senator chuck hagel makee it to the pentntagon? >> the house did not take up the tax measure today because it t did not have suffificient support from our mberto pass. house speaker john boehner's statement on thursday evening as he stood in front of the house republican conference on thursday night, he recited the serenity prayer. don, grarant me the serenity to accept the things that i cannot change, and close the house for business until after christmasas
to this point? taking you back to last week, you remember john boehner tried to get that alternative bill through the house. his own bill. he didn't have the support to do it. it fell apart. now things are in the senate and it will be up to harry reid and mitch connell and the president to try to come to a compromise to avoid the tax hikes and spending cuts that go into effect on the first of the year. president obama had been working with house speaker john boehner and trying to get a big deal that dealt with tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart and talks have largely been stalled this entire time. there was a lost pressure to get something done. we have seen some of the impacts of the fiscal cliff. consumers saying they have been more cautious with their holiday spending because of the uncertainty in washington. economists warn it could get worse and the markets could be foiled if we go over the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up for the average american by about $2,000 and could put us back into a recession. >> which nobody wants to see. kristen welker in hawaii. the president
as though president obama, house speaker john boehner were close to getting some sort of a grand bargain that would have addressed tax reform as well as deficit reduction. those talks, of course, fell apart. house speaker john boehner tried to get an alternative plan through the house. that didn't work out. now the focus shifts to the senate. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to try to hammer out some sort of a compromise to avoid going over the cliff, but as you pointed out in your introduction, a lot of senators over the weekend expressed concern that, in fact, we will go over the fiscal cliff. of course, if is that happens, the economy could eventually slip back into recession. one interesting point, thomas, though, last time that members of congress worked between christmas and new year's was 1996. that was during the government shutdown. this is really a rare occurrence for members of congress to have to come back and work out legislation that they went able to get done before the christmas holiday. >> the president is supposed to stay ther
connell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house speaker john boehner is saying the senate needs to just take up a house pass bill that has already passed t
is in the nation's capital this morning. so president obama's in hawaii. house speaker john boehner and other lawmakers have gone home for the holidays. what does all this mean for the chance of getting a deal done before the deadline? >> reporter: no doubt that president obama went to a warmer climate with the weather and probably a warmer climate politically. if there's any negotiating that will be done now, it will have to be done long distance for the next few days. we know that speaker boehner and president obama spoke in washington yesterday before they left. but when you hear their final words to reporters, it shows there is a continued public divide. >> the president and senate democrats have vowed to reject and veto all of our proposals while failing to offer responsible solutions of their own. but the president has -- what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. >> in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle-class amer
the details tonight. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house for a late afternoon fiscal cliff meeting which brought the president and congressional leaders together for the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought country any closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and, in fact, the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> reporter: the president called the meeting as lawmakers pointed fingers in this high stakes game of chicken. >> it's republicans who are holding hostage the middle class in america so that the wealthy don't have to pay their fair share. >> we need two words, presidential leadership on not just taxing rich people, we could tax all the rich people and cut their heads off and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. >> reporter: with time running out hopes for a grand bargain
against who speaker john boehner's plan b. he says passing the plan would not have changed the outcome. >> the reason i was against plan was i am not convinced the senate was ever going to take tips up. people feel all the house had to the endass the bill at of a discussion. beginning from the continue to believe the in notnt has no interest over the cliff. >> congress is not expected to meet again until after christmas. >> investigators are searching deadly gunman behind a double shooting in northeast d.c. of4-year-old raymond harris northwest and 69-year-old l beasley jr. of south east were shot early saturday morning. harrison died at the scene and r died at the hospital. no word on what led to the shooting. d.c. teenager shot the leg at a bus stop earlier month received a special delivery. the 18-year-old girl was shot by stole herunman who schoolbag, so some d.c. firefighters brightened her spirits this holiday season by and then buying bag. new laptop and engine 32 ann stock 16 -- and 32 surprise star, making happy.y a georgetown landmark is being shut down. the national park ser
't know how it can happen now, why. >> the senate majority leader last out at john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> he seemed to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on sound financial footing. >> republican leaders blamed the democrats and say there are limits to a compromise. >> republicans should not have to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that would not be fair to the american people. >> president obama flew home early from his vacation yesterday. speaker braoehner call the house back into town. but they understand their actions may not be enough to appease the american people. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial troubles would plunge the u.s. back into recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff milk prices goodbye to about $2 or $3 a gallon because farm programs will expire at the end of the year. >> tri
. >> thank you. >>> here's one take on the fiscal cliff. john boehner's animal house. we are bogey to talk to "the washington post" writer who says in boehner's house the animals are rampaging. what's that mean? we will have an answer for you in the next half hour. >>> nasty weather is lingering just before christmas. aaa predicts 93 million of us will be traveling long distances over the holidays. that includes those that are flying. with a hello to you. how is it looking out there? not too bad in terms of traffic behind you. >> that's exactly right. good afternoon. it isn't too bad. here chilly but sunny and no problems to report in atlanta. most major airports throughout the country are run okay. one exception may be san francisco. bus there were rain delays there earlier today. but -- traffic slowing down a few of the other airports. according to flight aware.com so far only about 70 nights cancelled in the u.s. so far today. that's a big difference from thursday and provide when that storm blew through the plains and midwest and the northeast. forcing the cancellation of more than 600
'm not one of the people who jump all over john boehner. i thought he was making a good- faith offer. it was flatly rejected. part of this is about revenue. a huge part is budget cuts and reductions. this is something erskine bowles has been emphasizing. you have to make substantial cuts. host: the headlines in the papers this morning talk about the fiscal cliff negotiations and should the speaker retain his leadership. do you think he should? guest: i do not know. this has hurt him, for sure. you could argue there are more compelling person. host: like who? guest: the guy that used to work for me, paul ryan, is a very well spoken young man. there are other people. tim scott, congressman from south carolina. but there are others. i was saying on my radio show we have a strong bench. the bench is now in the field. those guys are out there. bobby jindal and scott walker susana martinez. new kind of republicans. they understand the modern world a little better. there are lots of candidates. who the speaker is matters less than the party getting back to its core message. host: return to
of the republican circus, john boehner. let's figure out this guy. what is his story. he's the leader of the party that doesn't want to be led by him or anybody. they don't even -- well, it's not even actually a political party. it's a faction of tea party people telling the most republicans that they're not playing ball with them. >>> also tonight, hating hillary. that was the intriguing idea behind a politico idea. when will the right learn to rekindle its hatred for hillary. everybody played the hillary card lately saying how great she was on the right so they could make obama look bad. at some point they will have to confront hillary clinton herself as the chief democrat in the country. when will they pivot? >>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other lore lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally lly hopes for hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow
report. >> holman: house speaker john boehner went before cameras this morning just hours after he abandoned a vote on his "plan b". >> it's not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> holman: boehner's plan would have raised tax rates for households making more than $1 million, whereas president obama would raise rates on incomes above $400,000. but last night, as the vote neared, it became clear that at least two dozen rank-and-file republicans still opposed any increase. so party leaders abruptly ended the session. >> the house will stand in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> holman: at that point, republicans called an emergency meeting here in their capitol conference room, and leaders told members they did not have the votes. they announced the house would break until after christmas, but did not name a date when the chamber would reconvene. today, the speaker dismissed any suggestion that the turn of events was a rejection of his leadership. >> they weren't taking that out on me. they were dealing with the perception that somebody might acc
's agenda at the first of the year? and has this last week done damage to john boehner and the republican party? and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell and chuck todd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> that was the president of course. we're back with our roundtable. joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr., chuck todd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. welcome to all of you. all right, chuck. we'll talk about guns in a minute. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are we going to get a deal here? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it change boehner's mind? does it change the president's mind? i think the pres
on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner was at the white house summit. so far, he's not made a statement about the measures discussed. we're hearing the president does did not float a new deal but reiterated his calls to extend tax cuts for people making less than $250,000 he also wants to extend unemployment benefits for 2 million people and delay $110 billion in sequester cuts and that is a story we'll follow all weekend long. back to you in the studio. >> and thank you very much. >>> essentially, we remain in a stalemate tonight and congress returned yesterday to the senate, the house will be back on monday and they have three days to work it out. >>> and turning our attention to the other big story to the day. snow coming to the d.c. area and should start to see the white stuff coming overnight. gary mcgrady is joining us now. how much can we expect? >> reporter: not a lot. pardon me, tom. but we will have a little bit coming on across and looks like an accumulation here in the city. first of all, i want to assure you that this is not a
on plan a, a $4 trillion debt deal, and after the failure of speaker john boehner's plan b mr. obama has taken the initiative to bring plan c to the meeting today. >> this is not for show. this is a last ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package, small deal together, before the new year to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff and to deal with some of the unexcept issues. >> reporter: that package first unveiled by the president last friday before left for hawaii is a slimmed down bill that would focus on three key areas, keeping tax cuts only for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and with the clock ticking it would delay dramatic spending cut until later next year. >> i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans, and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. that's an achievable goal. >> reporter: after the meeting the
speaker john boehner and his fellow republicans before monday night's deadline. brian mooar, nbc washington. >> and david gregory will have an interview with president obama on "meet the press." that's tomorrow morning at 10:30 right here on nbc 4. >>> you know what that means. it's make or break time for the redskins as they face the dallas cowboys tomorrow at fedex field. the winner is in the playoffs. jason is here with more. >> one more day and we'll see if the redskins are in the post season. six straight victories turned around the season. but this team isn't concerned about the past. come sunday none of that matters at fedex field. >> another game we have to go out and win. and that's the way we look at it. so, you know, every moment in your life is the biggest one at that time. we look forward to having many more of these but we have to take care of this one. >> the stakes are high, and emotions are going to be high. and we just got come out. we have to be perfect if we want to win the game. >> this game is going to be everything we got. there is no saving it for this or
cuts would also be postponed. house speaker john boehner will be at the meeting today. the house will convene for a rare sunday evening session. house majority leader eric cantor says the house could be in session until january 2nd, the day before the new congress is sworn in. boehner, meanwhile, maintains that it's up to the senate to act first. >>> millions of americans may watch the ball drop new year's eve in times square, but a group of democrats is organizing its own ball drop on capitol hill. they'll launch their countdown today. their ball represents republicans dropping the ball on middle class families should lawmakers fail to reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. >>> new this morning, iran's state television is reporting the country's navy started training drills in the strait of hormuz. that area sees 20% of the oil pass through it. the state tv report says that the programs include more ships, submarines and jet fighters. they've warned other ships to stay away from the site until after the new year. >>> melissa mollet joins us from the live desk with more. good mo
's speaker of the house john boehner failed to get the plan b passed but he failed to even bring to a vote. and if his own party that kept it from happening. so as the bickering continues over who is to blame the president and speaker left town after making the parting pitches. >> the work towards a package that prevanes tax hike on mid -- prevents a tax hike on middle class americans protect unemployment insurance for 2 million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> the president's solution of raising tax rates would be redink as far as the eye could see and it would hurt jobs. >> president obama says that he will cut his holiday vacation short and try to hammer out the deal with congress. law makers are expected to return to washington later on this week to continue the negotiations. >>> well it's christmas eve and guess what, not everybody has done their christmas shopping. as i am suspecting you are the ones guilty of this. our floor director here a woman, she says she has not finished either. so if you are one of those procrastinato
freedomworks. he denounced house speaker john boehner's decision to kick four tea party-backed congressman out of key committee assignments. >> i'm out there because i had serious concerns about the ethical and moral behavior of the senior leadership. i don't particularly want to discuss that at length. i think it will be resolved. i am consoled by my certain knowledge that time wounds all heal. it has nothing to do with john boehner's misguided steps that he could discipline his colleagues in this conference, all of whom were elected as republicans on the republican ticket, or the notion that people have been dreaming about since 2009 that the tea party will dry up and blow away. these tea party activists are people with long standing commitment to ideals and note their activism matters. they will be there and the next election cycle. >> that was former house majority leader dick armey. freedomworks has been pivotal force behind the victories of tea party candidates are recent years. the money for dick armey's exit came from illinois billionaire richard stephenson, founder of the for-profit c
john boehner for blocking a vote on a potential deal while the gop led house isn't due back until sunday, just one day before the deadline to avoid the automatic tax increases in spending cuts that could send the nation into recession. the differences between the two sides remain intact. democrats want to raise taxes on everyone earning more than $250,000 a year although the president has offered to up that to $400,000 in negotiations with boehner. republicans have rejected any new taxes even those the house speaker proposed on people earning morning a million dollars. instead, gop wants deeper spending cuts to address the nation's deficit and with the clock ticking, neither side is giving up ground. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> this is a conversation we should have had months ago and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the c
republican house speaker john boehner of running a dictatorship in the house that is blocking a deal. the speaker has called the house back on sunday leaving just 24 hours for a deal. it is becoming clear though that the solution to the standoff is not going to come solely from democrats or republicans but will require concessions on both sides. and as the senate got back to business yesterday, democratic leader harry reid voiced frustration with the republican house which is not in town. >> they don't even have enough of the leadership here to meet to talk about it. they've done it with conference calls. people are spread all over this country. >> the democratic bill is, quotes, a revenue me sure that didn't originate in the house so it has no chance whatsoever of becoming law. >> reporter: if there is no deal by new year's, the bush era tax cuts will expire and everyone's taxes will go up. that could plunge the nation back into a recession. to reduce the deficit, the president wants to increase taxes on people earning $250,000 or more but he did show his willingness in negotiates w
basically pointing the finger at house speaker john boehner who controls the house and could refuse a vote even if this obama-friendly package passes the senate. he's saying to house republicans, you better let us get not what you want, but something where we can reassure 97% or so of americans -- they haven't set the actual cutoff, a quarter million a year, $400,000 a year, $500,000 a year, something in that area, people above that, to get a tax rate hike on income above that. the president is insisting on a vote before the fiscal cliff. we'll have to see if john boehner goes along with that one and if the obama plan can pass the senate, but there's a bit of optimism, a bit of energy, the body language finally looks a bit more positive. back to you. >> steve, with that improvement body language and the prospects that maybe something will happened, doesn't the fact remain that representative boehner does not seem to have control of the republicans in the house, a group of them standing firm, no taxes -- on a no tax increase on anybody. >> that's right, which is why boehner pulled the plug,
for a rare sunday evening session. it's not clear what the house will do. house speaker john boehner still insists it's up to the senate to make the next move. >>> iran's state television is reporting the country's navy started training drills in the strait of hormuz. iran is reportedly warned other ships to stay away from the site until after the new year. the state tv report says it includes warships, submarines and jet fighters. other countries are worried these tests are another step towards iran developing a nuclear weapon. >>> the military world is mourning the death of the man known as stormin' norman. general schwarzkopf died yesterday from complications with pneumonia. he helped lead forces during the first gulf war that removed saddam hussein from kuwait. a friend of his says schwarzkopf was in love with america and possessed with a sense of duty. he was 78 years old. schwarzkopf's death sparked reaction from many prominent american politicians and military leaders. former secretary of state general colin powell said "america lost a great patriot and a great soldier. his leadersh
faced over past three decades politically. gregg: what of john boehner though? steve latourette, who said, the same 50 or 60 chuckle heads who always screw things up, speaking of the tea party group. >> yeah. gregg: he said it is not really the speaker's fault. is it the speaker's fault? >> well, look, i think boehner was, he is in a bad spot. there are no good outcomes here for republicans. there have been no good policy outcomes for republicans. i watched the steven latourette comment, one of the things that struck me, these are the guys, 50 or 60 chuckle heads came here and screwed things up. the presumption congress was working just fine before they arrived. i would argue that it is nice we have people in congress who are actually serious about looking at the long term consequences of our overspending over these past couple of decades. that is where the real problem is. he can say they're stubborn and not willing to compromise and all things he said repeatedly as he made those criticisms but the reality is they're actually trying to solve the long-term problem. he may not like th
.o.p. the collapse is a serious blow to house speaker john boehner who hoped to gain leverage in his discussion with president obama and signals conservative republicans are inwilling to stomach any rise in tax rates even on those making more than $1 million which was mr. boehner's plan. so walk us through what happened on friday. how did we get there? and it seems like the speaker of the house didn't see this coming, and a lot of folks in washington want to know why not? guest: we begin the week with the speaker of the house saying negotiations between he and president obama had stalled. they were stuck on their -- i guess i would say maybe not their final offers but current offers. boehner said he would raise taxes on those making a million a year or more and get all told $1 trillion in tax increases which he wanted to be matched with $1 trillion in spending cuts and the rate increases on those making $1 million or more and remove loopholes and deductions to get the rest in revenue and then you had your spending cuts. the president, sort of depends on how you do your math and counting, but t
thursday after the christmas break. before leaving washington, mr. obama and house speaker john boehner both expressed hope that a deal will actually get done. >> we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many of us believe on both sides of the aisle that the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on -- how we get there, god only knows. >> i asked for a compromise from members of congress, i met them more than halfway on spending and met them halfway on taxes. in terms of actual dollar amounts, we're not that far apart. as of today, i am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done. >> but time is running out. to reach an agreement, there are now just ten days left until automatic tax hikes and spending cuts do take effect. the s&p 500 and the nasdaq finished in some negative territory for the day. investors fear the country could slide back into recession if there's no deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. >>> staying in washington, sena
in new taxes, john boehner has said he's willing to give $1 trillion. obama said he wants $800 billion in spending cuts, same thing for boehner. but the difference comes with the once again, the tax threshold. president obama originally said he would be willing to go with the $400,000 tax threshold. and as boehner said going off obama's words, he was willing to do it at $1 million. it comes down to what that threshold is. >> karen finney, i want to ask you about the same question, this ten days business. but i also want to amendment that question or expand it. how much damage did the republicans do last night by blowing up plan "b"? in other words, does that take them out of the power position in the negotiations? >> absolutely. because i think at this point, it's pretty clear that any kind of -- boehner could not get, what? 117 votes. so it's clear whatever happens next, he's not going to be able to rely on his own caucus to make that happen. that means, who do you need? nancy pelosi and you're going to have to get democrats to get something through the house. and so, i certainly thin
happened this week with john boehner's failure to bring even a vote on so-called plan b to be an embarrassment for the speaker, but you think that the g.o.p. dodged a bullet here? >> yeah, they dodged a serious bullet here in in case, when you think about it one of the most appealing quality of their brand they're principally opposed to tax increases that we don't have a revenue problem that we have a spending problem. to be on record as voting for a very anti-growth tax increase, i think, would imperil their house majority. >> and stf with just new years avenue, december 31st he. but he says actually the drop dead is the 27th to do the technicalities they have to do to pass by the end of the year. december 27th, that's just really a few minutes away. are they going to be able to do anything by then? >> they clearly could do something, but i think it's important for the republicans at this point to sit back and realize they've made a compromise. president obama walked away. now, the ball is in his court to actually give them something much better. if not these tax increa
. and john boehner, the speaker out house, the individual with whom the president is negotiating for, gosh, a year and a half now and trying to do a lot of things and trying to avert the fiscal cliff, no plans announced for him to return to washington. the house of representatives, their public stand, the republican leadership at any rate is that it is up to the senate to act. and the president before he left for hawaii last friday pointed out that there is a senate bill. he said he'll try to get a smaller bill and does what he said all along and raise tax rates on those couples filing jointly making more than $250,000 a year and extending unemployment benefits, something that is very important to a lot of americans who have been out of work for a very long time. one problem there, thomas. the very same bill or very near identical bill passed the senate last summer and languishing in the house of representatives. the threshold question has been and remains will the house of representatives stroet do something that a majority of republicans would go against? highly unlikely, thomas, and mor
met with harry reid at the white house and spoke with house speaker john boehner. mr. obama said lawmakers need a break from fiscal cliff frustration-- much of it self- induced. >> we move forward together or we don't move forward at all so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> reporter: the president will follow his own advice. lawmakers and return to washington if there is a deal. >> pelley: major, thank you. as you know, this debate is all about bringing the federal budget under control. if the white house and congress can't figure it out, big across- the-board budget cuts and those tax increases we mentioned kick in automatically january 1. the so-called fiscal cliff. the republican speaker of the house tried to force through his solution last night but he couldn't keep his own party in line. nancy cordes is at the capitol. nancy? >> reporter: scott, this was an unforced error. speaker boehner did not have to bring this plan "b" bill up but he was simply trying to get more leverage in negotiati
to the fiscal cliff, we are watching john boehner, playing out on a national stage a game i am not sure the national media quite gets ors perhaps even they as astute asst they are, the game of politics they quite get.g this is everything for a lot of people, what do you make of it>i in their attitudes, their demeanor, eir personality? >> everybody is trying to beth right, it needs to happen for what is best for our country anm in this country. >> is almost a testosterone contest. it is not about winning for the american peop is about winning for the party, i can do it better than you, it has to be who wins, w who loses? >> psychologically it is unsettling because it interferes with their comfort level in terms of spending and feelingf comfortable.th >> i don't think about it, they noticed a game of chicken when it comes to this fisl cliff. lou: etc. look a except when wet projections. talking about another recession.
of the reason, just like i don't believe john boehner actually does the house speaker. there is this group in the middle, first of all they are not sure where the political blame would lie. it could end up on them and they want want to have that happen. second of all these are deal mayors. they came to washington to get deals done. and they see the result, the goal as a deal to get past this rather than looking at the numbers. the folks on each side eve are looking at the numbers and they say the deficit would be in better shape and the economy in the long run is in better shape. they are looking long term. the deal makers in the center are looking right now and say they are scared of the political consequences and we are not quite sure how the numbers end up, the last thing we need is a rescission. >> reporter: steve vin dinin in washington. thank you. >> reporter: new information on a horrified christmas eve tragedy as a note left by this ex-con suggests that he planned to kill first responders and possibly some of his own neighbors when he set this massive inferno, it happened on monday
? is it john boehner? was it mitt romney? don't bet on it. the real boss is a man other woman in the back row of a tea party meeting. the angry one who stands up and scalds him. it's that angry voice rising up from the back of the room that haunts the tea party-backed republican. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership? or, worse yet, the democratic president? or do they want to vote against all of that? no taxes? no deals, no compromises. no nothing. period. this is the wall that those of the tea party have raised up. they can't vote for what they campaigned against, spending money on government. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> tonight, in new york city, welcome to "politics nation" second annual revvie awards. it's the best and the worst in politics, 2012. look, all the big stars are on the red carpet. donald trump is in the unreality show category. paul ryan's pumped and ready to go. what's with the hat there? >> and what's an awards show without this guy. he survived a really rough y
? the republican leadership, mitch mcconnell and john boehner and the whole rest of them made an unholy alliancalliance. they said instead of watching the tea party rise up and become a third force in american politics, which is what says, they said we're going to try to bind these two things together. we don't wants it to sflit apart the right. we try to pretend like we're one party. they're clearly not one party. john boehner may get re-elected as speaker, but he has no more authority to control the caucus to get them to stroet for his own budget proposals than he does today. the optics may change and we'll go over the cliff and taxes go up and they're presented with the ability to lower taxes and john boehner won't have any authority because he tries to run two parties and not one. until republicans deal with na and until the leadership says we made a mistake, these are a different group of people and have darch the agenda for us, they stop us taking national power. until that happens, we'll be in the mess for a another couple of years at least. >> i totally agree with that. i think
speaker john boehner on people earning over a million dollars. the senate is in session on capitol hill and house speerk barren has called lawmakers back into session sunday night at 6:30. that only leaves just over 24 hours to come up with a deal. republican and democratic leaders in the senate continue to blame the other side. >> i guess w dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do. he backed off of even his own proposal. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we want to know your thoughts on all of this. what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff. do you think it is possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline. you can share your thoughts and comments on facebook, on our fob page. just search for fox 5 morning news, no space between fox and the number 5. we may share your comments on air. >>> now to a big story we are following as we learn of the pass aifg decorated u.s
. it was the last offer from the president to john boehner, the house speaker, before negotiations collapsed. it would do a few other thing like take care of the alternative minimum tax, protect taxpayers from the expansion of that burden. it would also raise medicare reimbursements for doctors or prevent them from falling, rather, extend unemployment benefits. the irony is that this is a much worse deal for republicans than they could have had earlier because it's not likely to include spending cuts or reforms of entitlement programs. at this point, republicans are knowing that they'll lose the tax debate are trying to figure out what are the least bad terms they can lose on. >> you mention that income level of $400,000. earlier, the speaker of the house had floated what he called the plan b that would allow cuts to expire on those making $1 million or more. republicans would not support that. why would they support this? >> well, many of them will not support this. but the dynamic that they're looking at is one that if you have a bipartisan bill go through the senate and a significant numb
. >>> and shark attack. the very close >>> we just receive word that john boehner has left the white house, but there's no word if any budget agreement has been reached to avoid first of the year tax hikes, s president obama and top congressional leaders met at the white house this afternoon to work on that deal. >>> there is outrage today over a new bill signed into law by russian president vladimir putin. it bans americans from adopting russian children. the law is considered retaliation for new u.s. legislation that put sanctions on russian human rights violators. >>> right now police have three people in custody after allegedly stealing a car, then crashing into a mel rho bus sgro loe 'get another check of the storm, and the weekend, bring out extra blank either. >> maybe an extra blank et or two that will be about it. i do think some of us maybe using our snow shovels a bit to the north and west, but most of the area we won't see a big storm. this is not a big one. >>> this includes washington, but all of southern maryland, you are south and east of i-95, mostly a rain event, not worr
also asked for a plan to keep providing benefits to unemployed workers. house speaker john boehner is home in cincinnati. he failed to get members of his own party to support his plan b proposal for ending the crisis. speaker boehner says the stalemate and the failure of plan b is the democrats' fault. >> the president -- what the. has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he refuses to challenges the members of his party to deal honesty with the entitlement reform and the big issues facing our nation. that's why we find ourselves here today. >> the president is scheduled to return to washington wednesday. there's no word if any new talks are planned. >>> even if we go over the cliff, workers won't feel all of the tax increaseness their january paychecks. the american payroll association says it's already too late for employers to accurately with hold income taxes from january paychecks. however, workers will immediately
of representatives said, and i have it here somewhere, i don't want to be critical of john, meaning john boehner, but if you don't ever bring something to the floor without the votes. so this is what happened last thursday night where he brought this bill to the floor, his plan b, and it went nowhere. was that a major miscalculation for him? >> it was. look, denny was the speakner nea different time. he could hand out projects to districts of wavering members. and he had a very tough leadership team that went out and got the votes. boehner is not a strong leader. he doesn't have the pork and the earmarks anymore since they've been banned. and a lot of the incoming -- or the folks that came in in 2010, the tea party folks, they look at the tom delay are era and say -- >> they're both long time qulil wat capitol hill watchers, and we have to ask you are you seeing any sway now in following boehner? is he losing support? >> obviously the fact that he thought that he would be able to bring the bill last week to the floor to raise taxes on everybody making a million dollars or more and then had to pu
and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, what is the chance you see this becomes the new compromise? >> i'm not sure if hooert side is watching very closely. we did a survey and we got two interesting questions. one that's very tough on republicans. we a
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